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Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:16 pm PostPost subject: Brake upgrades
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Looking at changing the brakes on the Fabia.

Currently still on the original discs which have done 70k and they still look fine but the pads are pretty gubbed after the track night on friday.

Bearing in mind i am on a budget but as people know i want to get the best i can afford.

So far im thinking MTec C hook discs with EBC Yellowstuff pads. I know yellowstuff pads have abit of a meh rep but considering the car will mainly be used on the road would these be suitable?
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:17 am PostPost subject:
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Your standard discs are fine, leave them for now.

Spend the disc money on braided flexis, better brake fluid and decent pads. Also consider something to brace the MS against susp turret if the whole assembly is flexing when you push the brake pedal. Makes a massive difference to brake feel.

Fluid - go for rbf600
Pads - I’d recommend xp8 from carbotech. They can make to suit your car if you supply old pads I think.

You’ll get many variations/recommendations from folk with regards to pads. Weigh up their input by considering their experience.....

We’ve used carbotech, Mintex, ferrodo, pagid, performance friction and ebc on track cars over the years and from experience the XP8 is good on road and track.
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:38 pm PostPost subject:
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I've got a 2x 500ml bottles of rbf600 fluid never opened in my garage collecting dust if you want to take it off my hands ?
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AK wrote:
Your standard discs are fine, leave them for now.

Spend the disc money on braided flexis, better brake fluid and decent pads. Also consider something to brace the MS against susp turret if the whole assembly is flexing when you push the brake pedal. Makes a massive difference to brake feel.

Fluid - go for rbf600
Pads - I’d recommend xp8 from carbotech. They can make to suit your car if you supply old pads I think.

You’ll get many variations/recommendations from folk with regards to pads. Weigh up their input by considering their experience.....

We’ve used carbotech, Mintex, ferrodo, pagid, performance friction and ebc on track cars over the years and from experience the XP8 is good on road and track.


Daft question but MS?

I did look at XP8's and also DS2500 but the only issue i can see is getting the heat in them for normal driving to work use.

Daz5q3 wrote:
I've got a 2x 500ml bottles of rbf600 fluid never opened in my garage collecting dust if you want to take it off my hands ?


Would happyily but im down in glasgow Mad
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:10 pm PostPost subject:
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MS should have been MC. Must have autocorrected or i got it wrong

Master Cylinder

Both XP8 and DS2500 work well from cold. DS2500 is more aggressive on the disc/less 'street' friendly
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:42 pm PostPost subject:
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I run the ds2500 in my bmw "daily" tow horse, would highly recomend them for road with a few track days,

Id stay away from EBC pads....
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:58 pm PostPost subject:
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MS should have been MC. Must have autocorrected or i got it wrong

Master Cylinder

Both XP8 and DS2500 work well from cold. DS2500 is more aggressive on the disc/less 'street' friendly


Don’t wanna start messing about relocating stuff Laughing

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I run the ds2500 in my bmw "daily" tow horse, would highly recomend them for road with a few track days,

Id stay away from EBC pads....


What’s the issues you’ve had with the ebc?
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Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:19 am PostPost subject:
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you dont need to relocate anything....

google master cylinder brace. Not sure what your car is like, or even if its an issue. Just know that it would be the first thing i'd do if preping another impreza/GTR Wink First Thing!

You just brace the end of the cyclinder against something strong.... somthing bolted to something secure (the susp turret).

EBC i've tried in the past.... just dont work as well as the pads mentioned above, so would never consider them again. Tried once... move on
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Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:48 pm PostPost subject:
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so i was being thick Laughing master cylinder is under where you put the brake fluid in on the firewall.
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Don't forget to change the lines too, no point upping spec on pads and fluid if you've still got shitty OEM lines on them. Not expensive either.
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Don't forget to change the lines too, no point upping spec on pads and fluid if you've still got shitty OEM lines on them. Not expensive either.

Thats true, Braided lines are on the list too.
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Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:43 am PostPost subject:
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Just the flexis ...
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Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:04 pm PostPost subject:
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Not used EBC in about 20yrs for good reason, there are far better fast road/track based pads.

Recommend Mintex 1144 as they'll work good from cold but won't have the track longevity of DS2500.

Braided hoses will make a HUGE difference.

So will bleeding your brakes regularly and ducting some cold air to the front brakes, both of which will cost hee-haw.

Do you understand the difference between brake pads overheating and brake fluid overheating?
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