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Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:53 pm PostPost subject: Msa questions
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I was having a look at what I could do to my car without taking it from the class I thought it would fit into (production modified) and into libre but after looking at the rules, as I read them I'm thinking my car would be in the road going series production class as it sits the now

I just have a couple of bits I'm unsure of


11.5.1. For Road-Going Series Production Cars, the cylinder block and cylinder head must remain in the original position and be externally identifiable as that fitted to the original model or specified option. Induction is free, as are exhaust systems.

I have forged internals , a bit of head work in the engine and I have a modified standard position turbo . Does my car still fit in this class ?

Body (including aerodynamics)
11.4.1. Silhouette of the vehicle must remain unaltered in construction, dimension and material. The silhouette will be taken in the condition in which the car competes (convertible closed cars competing with the hood or top not erected shall have the silhouette determined in that condition).
11.4.2. Engine bonnet/cover and luggage/boot cover may be replaced with an alternative material.

Can I run an aftermarket spoiler or does it have to be an oem spoiler ?

11.4.6. Interior trim must remain fitted (except floor carpets/mats).

Can I run race seats in the front or must it be standard seats ? Do I have to run rear seats ?


Suspension
11.7.1. The suspension type and mountings must remain the same as that fitted by the vehicle manufacturer.
11.7.2. The shock absorbers may be of any make and may be uprated from standard.
11.7.3. Adjustable spring platform struts are permitted. 11.7.4. The mounting method and position must remain
as specified by the vehicle manufacturer.
11.7.5. Springs are free but must retain their original location.
11.7.6. For Road-going Series Production Cars bushes may be changed for similar polymer materials but not to spherical or similar metal joints.
11.7.6.1. For Road-going Specialist Production Cars bushes may be changed for similar polymer materials, spherical or similar metal joints.

My car has whiteline anti lift kit , roll bars etc , are these allowed in road going production ?
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Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:30 pm PostPost subject: Re: Msa questions
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I was having a look at what I could do to my car without taking it from the class I thought it would fit into (production modified) and into libre but after looking at the rules, as I read them I'm thinking my car would be in the road going series production class as it sits the now

I just have a couple of bits I'm unsure of


11.5.1. For Road-Going Series Production Cars, the cylinder block and cylinder head must remain in the original position and be externally identifiable as that fitted to the original model or specified option. Induction is free, as are exhaust systems.

I have forged internals , a bit of head work in the engine and I have a modified standard position turbo . Does my car still fit in this class ?


yes

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Body (including aerodynamics)
11.4.1. Silhouette of the vehicle must remain unaltered in construction, dimension and material. The silhouette will be taken in the condition in which the car competes (convertible closed cars competing with the hood or top not erected shall have the silhouette determined in that condition).
11.4.2. Engine bonnet/cover and luggage/boot cover may be replaced with an alternative material.

Can I run an aftermarket spoiler or does it have to be an oem spoiler ?


OEM ONLY in Road Going
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11.4.6. Interior trim must remain fitted (except floor carpets/mats).

Can I run race seats in the front or must it be standard seats ? Do I have to run rear seats ?


As it says... you need to run the full interior. I think you are free to change drivers seat.

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Suspension
11.7.1. The suspension type and mountings must remain the same as that fitted by the vehicle manufacturer.
11.7.2. The shock absorbers may be of any make and may be uprated from standard.
11.7.3. Adjustable spring platform struts are permitted. 11.7.4. The mounting method and position must remain
as specified by the vehicle manufacturer.
11.7.5. Springs are free but must retain their original location.
11.7.6. For Road-going Series Production Cars bushes may be changed for similar polymer materials but not to spherical or similar metal joints.
11.7.6.1. For Road-going Specialist Production Cars bushes may be changed for similar polymer materials, spherical or similar metal joints.

My car has whiteline anti lift kit , roll bars etc , are these allowed in road going production ?


Yes.... not rose joint / spherical bearings (top mounts) allowed though. I think you're car would fail on that part.

Is this for SLS? In reality unless you really want to fight for the additional road-going championship it makes no odds on the scritineering class - in therms of the overall and class championship.
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Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:50 pm PostPost subject: Re: Msa questions
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Is this for SLS? In reality unless you really want to fight for the additional road-going championship it makes no odds on the scritineering class - in therms of the overall and class championship.[/quote]


No not for SLS mate although I am definately doing a full season next year ,

I also plan on trying a hillclimb or 2 and see if I like it and just wondered what class I'd be in , is my cage ok too (6 point bolt in )
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Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:54 pm PostPost subject:
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Missed the bit you said about the top mounts (just noticed after I replied)

Oh well looks like it'll be modified production then
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:15 pm PostPost subject:
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If you're doing the Scottish Speed Championship, you should have a word with Rob McKinna, the Championship Eligibility Scrutineer. You'll find his number in the Blue Book and the Championship regs.
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:51 pm PostPost subject:
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Thanks renny
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