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Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:45 pm PostPost subject:
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I think it comes down to how you do the calculations. Either you do each individual part (audi/copa/trailer/other stuff) to get below the 3945 which is what I did 'maximum weight of the vehicle and any trailer that is attached plus any load '.

The other way is what you are suggesting which is max weight then subtract max weight of vehicle. But the max weight of vehicle would be with 5 adults and luggage I guess which I would never have...

Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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It's actual not plate weight when driving/towing privately.

85% is best practice but you can go well over ie 3.5t is a lot more than an x5 alone so circa 150%
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I need a gun shooting a head emoticon as my brain is bust :p


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Lol

Loads smarter than me here so maybe I'm wrong & it's as complicated as u think Laughing
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if we are confused - would the cops be if I got pulled Smile
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I've had the pleasure of a stop in the truck at a full fat vosa, immigration, trading standards, custom & excise, police checkpoint.
They know their onions & all I got warned for was not having the correct long vehicle sign appropriate to the age of the truck.
Weights weren't checked but to be fair you could tell by looking all was under
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:45 am PostPost subject:
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chorlton wrote:
It's actual not plate weight when driving/towing privately.

85% is best practice but you can go well over ie 3.5t is a lot more than an x5 alone so circa 150%


The manufacturers plate will show what the vehicle is allowed as a maximum weight. ie, if the X5 is plated at 3500Kg,if placed on a weighbridge, the max combined weight on both axles should not be over 3500Kg (nor should any plated axle weights be exceeded).
If a trailer is being towed, the tow vehicles plated towing weight should not be exceeded, nor the trailer plated weight exceeded either.

For example (Land Rover Discover Sport):
Tow Vehicle Max Mass
Front Axle 1310Kg
Rear Axle 1430Kg
Gross vehicle 2640Kg

Towing Capability
Max 2200Kg

Gross Train Weight
(vehicle +trailer) 4840Kg

Discovery 4
Gross Vehicle 3300Kg
Towing Cap 3500Kg
Gross Train 6800Kg

Defender 110 SW
Gross 3050Kg
Tow 3500Kg
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:07 am PostPost subject:
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commercially licence required is MAM of plate even if vehicle & trailer are unladen v used personally its the actual bridge weight albeit yes it must be under the plate weights loaded.
An unladen 110 (est 2.5t) can still tow 3.5t, right?
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chorlton wrote:
commercially licence required is MAM of plate even if vehicle & trailer are unladen v used personally its the actual bridge weight albeit yes it must be under the plate weights loaded.
An unladen 110 (est 2.5t) can still tow 3.5t, right?


Yes, a Defender can tow up to 3500Kg. Driver needs a B+E license though (pre'97 old farts). There used to be a LR option for powered brakes that increased the towing capacity to 5000Kg.
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