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Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:05 pm PostPost subject: Value for Money - Mods to a track car
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I'm sure you all notice it... some folk build the most amazing cars with the best bits but dont really use it Laughing

From those that have improved cars as they go.... what has been the best product/part/change vs money spent?

Things like removing weight for free are a given Laughing

I think a good one for the impreza is a 25 brace for the master cylinder Very Happy
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Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:10 pm PostPost subject: Re: Value for Money - Mods to a track car
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I'm sure you all notice it... some folk build the most amazing cars with the best bits but dont really use it Laughing

From those that have improved cars as they go.... what has been the best product/part/change vs money spent?

Things like removing weight for free are a given Laughing

I think a good one for the impreza is a 25 brace for the master cylinder Very Happy


Diff. Most important thing you can change from going road to track/racing.

After that brakes. Once you've had a good bespoke brake set-up you'll realise why it's worth cancelling Xmas for.
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Christmas? Wasssat?
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Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:18 pm PostPost subject: Re: Value for Money - Mods to a track car
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Diff. Most important thing you can change from going road to track/racing.


This! I upped my power by ~35% but it was the diff that made the biggest difference IMO. It allowed me to put down that extra power and since my car is FWD the exiting of corners is where FWD has a disadvantage.

I think most mods give definite advantage but it is hard to single one or two out over the others. Having a proper roll cage was a great performance mod, stiffened the car up so much. But for my car a custom roll cage (no off the shelf available) it was expensive.

Probably the biggest bang for buck mod I have done is my MFactory 4.64 final drive. Only 500 but has the equivalent performance increase of a couple of grand in engine mods (for my NA engine).
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Christmas? Wasssat?


Something that used to happen once a year until AP Racing was founded. It was apparently to celebrate some dude who was special as he was the only white man in the middle east.
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Diff made a huge difference to the Riot also.

Setting up the suspension / geometry took seconds off my lap time. I built a corner weight rig and bought tracking gauges so this is all done at home otherwise this would be have been a huge expense. I calculated my spring rates based on ride frequency to save having to buy multiple sets of springs and trying them.
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Good brakes and brake fluid. Personally I've never boiled brake fluid but I've been at plenty TD's to see a car coming off with smoke billowing out of the front wheels and the driver telling everyone that the pedal has gone to the floor. For something as fundamental as stopping the car I would say brakes, even just a pad and fluid upgrade, are very worthwhile indeed.
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on that note..... I've never (touch wood) had massive fade on brakes in a track car. I know I'm hard on brakes but I think my style is maybe on harder for less time if that makes sense. Completely agree with this point though - massive gains in time can be made from stopping faster! Folk will tell you that standard setups work well with decent pads.... normally they just arent going quick enough or working the brakes hard enough. Upping the size of the disc makes a massive difference to stopping and heat management (surface area). SLS is prob do-able on standard setups though due to possible low temps.

Road cars and brake fade - thats another story Laughing Had that happen a lot Very Happy
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The best for me was the kevlar seats, Hans and roll cage. The psychological, advantage was huge. In terms of reliability, the dry sump with the modine solved so many problems, and, in terms of pace, the exhaust, diff, and sequential gearbox, although their high cost didn't make them the best value.
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I found that getting rid of my scooby & buying the clio was a very cheap mod Laughing
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One that may not be good value for money!

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/this-shocking-video-shows-what-happens-to-you-when-using-counterfeit-racing-harnesses/

(just to raise awareness that these are circulating on ebay)
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Provided your car is decent already, i.e its had the bushes and balljoints and so on done, then the best VFM is normally some used track tyres and a decent set of pads IMHO, followed by a proper seat so you arent bracing yourself inside the car.
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Brakes and suspension..
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If its your 1st ever track day in your road car the cheapest tip is to get your tyre pressures right.

See countless folk drowning it tyres squeal with no idea they need to do anything different & assuming everyone else has better tyres, suspensio.
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